tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post1156676528700730616..comments2024-02-11T19:28:27.997+11:00Comments on Personal Reflections: Sunday Essay - untangling the real meaning of new ways of workingJim Belshawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-72101408403504643592012-07-04T14:40:21.919+10:002012-07-04T14:40:21.919+10:00We do in indeed, kvd! Your comment made me put up ...We do in indeed, kvd! Your comment made me put up an explanatory post.Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-49759452753096938042012-07-04T07:46:50.878+10:002012-07-04T07:46:50.878+10:00Well Jim, I read a subsequent post which seemed to...Well Jim, I read a subsequent post which seemed to caste aspersions upon dogs (joking!) and went away to think about it before commenting, then returned to find the dogs are missing...<br /><br />We live in unstable times.<br /><br />kvdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-9469272459355507702012-07-02T18:23:49.299+10:002012-07-02T18:23:49.299+10:00Starting with the last comment first, you are righ...Starting with the last comment first, you are right kvd in concluding that my comments I have a special focus on larger organisations. I should balance that a little. <br /><br />Ramana, your comments on HRD ring fairly true from my experience. You can add to it the increasing need for HRDs to deal with compliance issues. I don't object to all of this, it's more the way it's done. You can also add the impact of computer systems themselves and the way they affect the delivery of the human resource function. <br /><br />I agree with you that people adjust. Indeed, that was one point we tried to make in our marketing of the NWofW concept. People had adjusted, and employers themselves had to adjust as a consequence. Those who sow the wind etc.<br /><br />In fact, organisations have begun to adjust. Just, and this is an Australian comment, compare the different approaches to people during the earlier Australian recession and that during the GFC. My argument is that neither employers nor indeed employees have yet fully realized just what it all means. <br /><br />Evan, I haven't researched the academic material in the way I should.Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-62065558382239488402012-07-02T17:19:20.390+10:002012-07-02T17:19:20.390+10:00Jim, have to admit I'm struggling with this an...Jim, have to admit I'm struggling with this and the last post. From my (decidedly) small business background I've had to face the inevitability of change - both as to the continuing business, and to totally different directions - a few times.<br /><br />The problems you are describing seem to me more directed to those who have employment in larger organisations. Anyway, I shall continue reading with interest, as they say.<br /><br />kvdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-54452760744820399892012-07-01T17:27:36.494+10:002012-07-01T17:27:36.494+10:00Jim, coming as I do from a highly committed HRD ba...Jim, coming as I do from a highly committed HRD background, I despair at what what is now called HRD in most organisations. Inevitably, the department is simply called so but they remain the old Personnel department focused on what suits the management best. Treating employees as long term resources is simply not in any one's agenda in a business atmosphere driven by quarterly performances. I have personal experience of such shabby approaches and I keep getting information from younger people that nothing has improved since my retirement. There are a few companies who do follow remarkably enlightened HR practices but they are the exception.<br /><br />The work force has therefore willy-nilly accepted the fact of life and adapted. Since being employed is preferable to being unemployed, new employment methods like contract labour have gained acceptance and the declining clout of labour unions have added to the despair of progressive elements of the society.<br /><br />I of course speak for India but I will be very surprised if other countries also do not present the same scenario.<br /><br />(I shall send by separate mail an explanation of "Contract Labour".)<br /><br />Evan, what you suggest is to say the least, utopian. The trade union movement was meant exactly for that purpose, but over the last three or four decades, bar Germany, Capital has gained the upper most hand in all economic activity and what Jim despairs about is precisely due to this.Rummuserhttp://www.rummuser.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-73069539533067854592012-07-01T17:05:18.350+10:002012-07-01T17:05:18.350+10:00Hi Jim, I hope you sketch out more of this. It is...Hi Jim, I hope you sketch out more of this. It is a hugely important area that gets so little attention.<br /><br />It would be interesting to see if individuals could form groups of mutual support - a new version of friendly societies? - where individuals contributed to employment insurance for each other and ther benefits.<br /><br />I don't see the corporates ever valuing individuals and their contribution.<br /><br />One example of a low turnover company is Ricardo Semler's. It would be possible to study companies like his and get a sense of a new way of working. I'm sure this will have been done in academia somewhere. You would know better than me.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13355215688351759230noreply@blogger.com