tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post8039754516831103417..comments2024-02-11T19:28:27.997+11:00Comments on Personal Reflections: Australia's election confusionsJim Belshawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-19993934597450230142010-08-13T08:15:04.954+10:002010-08-13T08:15:04.954+10:00That's very interesting, Jamie. Just a factual...That's very interesting, Jamie. Just a factual question first; I was under the impression that to be fully qualified you needed a Cert IV. Is that not the case?<br /><br />A Cert II or Cert III is meant to give you a certain level of skills, but not the whole kit. <br /><br />I have the impression from your description that the problem lies in the nature of trade training itself. The training is meant to be competency based. If the kids do not in fact acquire the competencies required for Cert II or Cert III, then there would appear to be both a training and an assessment problem. Or am I over simplifying?<br /><br />So far as TAS itself is concerned, the school has been providing trade/vocational training for some time and appears to be okay at it. <br /><br />Interesting in all. Another case of what seems to be a good idea in theory? Certainly, the new Armidale facility is impressive on the outside! It seems a long time since we were there. Sigh!Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-10068317881995926532010-08-12T23:18:21.331+10:002010-08-12T23:18:21.331+10:00Interpretation please!!
Jim, The abolition of pr...Interpretation please!!<br /><br />Jim, The abolition of proposed trade training centres by the current opposition may not in itself be a bad thing.<br /><br />I am now qualified to deliver Hospitality and Commercial Cookery to Certificate 3 level within High Schools. Great for me, another string to my bow. But is it good for my students. <br /><br />For students within the wider community, a Cert 3 means that they have invariably undergone a 3 year apprenticeship and acquired all the skills that go with that in-house training. I cannot do this within a high school, yet I can turn out a supposedly fully qualified chef! Rubbish! Industry send my students back to TAFE complaining that they know all but nothing! I tick the boxes within the framework that i work under. <br /><br />I am also an industry professional with a Catering business. Would I employ the students that I deem, under the framework qualified at a Cert 2 level? No, not if I had to pay them!<br /><br />As far as training is concerned for the VET teachers, a lot is to be desired. I have spent one night per week for the last two years at TAFE upgrading my qualifications from Cert 2 to Cert 3 in Commercial Cookery. Recently, DET announced that all VET Hospitality teachers would need to upgrade their qualifications from Cert 2 to Cert 3 and outlined how this would take place.<br /><br />They will need to attend a TAFE for 3-4 days at the departments expense and complete 6 service periods in a catering establishment! I have spent about 60 days at a TAFE in the last 2 years and have to complete 48 service periods!<br /><br />And we wonder why industry says our students know nothing!<br /><br />Trade training centres are i think, jobs for the boys<br /><br />cheers<br />JamesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com