tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post8799044003488254573..comments2024-02-11T19:28:27.997+11:00Comments on Personal Reflections: Monday Forum - what do you think of the new school education proposals?Jim Belshawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-77296166170774791942013-04-17T20:29:42.021+10:002013-04-17T20:29:42.021+10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Regional College Of Pharmacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12881020149818784633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-83177902385306614262013-04-17T06:33:09.931+10:002013-04-17T06:33:09.931+10:00True and I couldn't!True and I couldn't!Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-14937186826443367722013-04-17T06:13:36.262+10:002013-04-17T06:13:36.262+10:00Also Jim, I think we're about at the point whe...Also Jim, I think we're about at the point where nobody's actually listening to this government any more. Might be more worthwhile to compare and contrast the Liberal's plans.<br /><br />Bet you can't find them :)<br /><br />kvdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-11790984672383509102013-04-16T22:07:53.291+10:002013-04-16T22:07:53.291+10:00I agree with you, Rod. We need more pathways, not ...I agree with you, Rod. We need more pathways, not blind adherence to rigid rules. Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-35663432963490893332013-04-16T22:02:48.427+10:002013-04-16T22:02:48.427+10:00Rod, I hadn't picked up Mr Windsor's comme...Rod, I hadn't picked up Mr Windsor's comment. No, it won't do him any good in Armidale. In fact, it puzzles me. Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-13293914159145920282013-04-16T21:59:05.663+10:002013-04-16T21:59:05.663+10:00kvd, as i understand it, WA is already spending mo...kvd, as i understand it, WA is already spending more per head on public education than the Fed's benchmarks. So they lose control without any real gain. For some reason, the WA Government is disinclined to accept arguments that they should accede for the national good. Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-52760621187505886812013-04-16T20:32:45.265+10:002013-04-16T20:32:45.265+10:00sorry... the last line should have been:
The sol...sorry... the last line should have been:<br /><br /> The solution needs to be finding better pathways for those that do not want to be in school.<br /><br />And I'll add:<br /><br />School does not suit everyone just like university does not suit everyone.Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962789743908134314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-21132476331375270352013-04-16T20:30:25.724+10:002013-04-16T20:30:25.724+10:00It is interesting that two of the independants are...It is interesting that two of the independants are supportive that the source of the money for primary and secondary education is from the tertiary sector. This might do a bit of harm in Armidale for Windsor.<br /><br />As for schools... I think that the government has been beating up the slightly poorer academic records of school kids that have been reported. Schools have to keep students "studying" until year 12 even if they dont want to be there. This means that they harm the study environment for others as well as artificially depress the average results. This is an administrative cause of the problem.<br /><br />If you fund teachers and educational equipment for students that dont want to be at school you are doomed to failure. The solution needs to be finding better pathways for those that are not in school. Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962789743908134314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-55314510380334631162013-04-16T13:26:47.627+10:002013-04-16T13:26:47.627+10:00Driving around this morning I listened to the WA P...Driving around this morning I listened to the WA Premier's (unenthusiastic) take on the funding. I haven't checked his figures, but he said for WA it meant $200M extra funding over 6 years provided WA put in an extra $100M in the same period.<br /><br />He said this translated to $33M extra Commonwealth funding per year for WA, whereas his latest budgeted education total annual spend was $4Bn<br /><br />If he's right that's not so much a 'revolution' as a small extra drip in the bucket. Who knows?<br /><br />kvdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-37035111649138907102013-04-16T12:38:25.989+10:002013-04-16T12:38:25.989+10:00Evan, you make a fair point. it is a combination o...Evan, you make a fair point. it is a combination of funding model plus perfomance measurement. The first doesn't make it a bad thing, but an education revolution?!<br /><br />As part of my research, I was mugging up on the dawkins revolution; it reminded me that that was where some current stuff came in.<br /><br />LE, suspected you would feel that way. Reading the commentary, its messier than I thought. Jim Belshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075614280789984767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-91149196824124535092013-04-16T10:22:07.526+10:002013-04-16T10:22:07.526+10:00The extraction of money from a sector encouraged t...<i> The extraction of money from a sector encouraged to expand to meet other Government objectives doesn't seem to make a great deal of sense to me.</i><br /><br />Yup. that's what I think too. Obviously as an academic I'm pretty disappointed.Legal Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01096038577529334966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24338064.post-43929239933960399672013-04-16T09:31:12.023+10:002013-04-16T09:31:12.023+10:00Not one word about how people learn!
Gonski is ab...Not one word about how people learn!<br /><br />Gonski is about funding not education.<br /><br />My own view is that the Uni's are now surviving as credentialling institutions. When they lose this role they're history. <br /><br />I would like places that educated citizens and persons not ones that produced office fodder.<br /><br />None of which will even get remotely near discussion.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13355215688351759230noreply@blogger.com